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Friday, July 30, 2010

Re: [opensuse-wiki] Wiki Google Custom Search

On 30/07/10 12:08, Juergen Weigert wrote:
> On Jul 29, 10 11:57:37 -0600, Matthew Ehle wrote:
[...]
> Can we influence the results of the google search? We may want to move
> results from Portal and Main namespaces to the top, to honor the higher
> quality of the pages found there.

Is it possible in the Google Custom Search
to make even more differences
especially between matches
0. (not only) between namespaces but
1. exactly to the name
2. in the title/name
3. to the text
4. in combinations of
(0. AND 1.); (0 and 2.); ...

For example:
If someone gives "sax2" or "SaX2" to the search engine
can he be directed
only to
http://en.opensuse.org/Archive:SaX2
to a list with first to [[Archive:SaX2]]
instead of

to a list in that are all the (probably at least for 11.3 outdated)
articles listed that have (still) SaX2/sax2 anywhere in the body/source
of the article...

- ...and only in three (rated most important?) namespaces:
like the Wiki-search with the settings uses now as default
http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?ns0=1&ns102=1&search=SaX2&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=Advanced+search&fulltext=Advanced+searchy

Can pages with redirects be treated different
for example:
be excluded if the name does not match exactly to the searched
term/phrase (but disregarding capital/non-capital letters)?


See also:
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-wiki/2010-07/msg00221.html
http://en.opensuse.org/User:Jnweiger/Wiki_search#Suggestions
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/community/opensuse-wiki-discussions/441504-help-wanted-portals-11-1-11-2-11-3-a.html#post2188041


Regards
pistazienfresser

By the way:

A)
I am not able to access:
http://enstage.opensuse.org/Portal:GoogleSearch

B) the normal/external google search on en.opensuse.org for "SaX2"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aen.opensuse.org+SaX2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
still gives me a list...

*... with the best match as the second in the list
but mostly containing dead links:


*
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.opensuse.org%2FYaST%2FModules%2FMouse_Model&ei=c7FSTP6sD-KJOPSPpZ4O&usg=AFQjCNHMiUTfCa-SIdK_0liuAOBdzVDTXQ
a dead link as 1. match
* http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:Bugs/SaX2
a dead link as 3. match
* http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/SaX2?lang=
a dead link as 5. match
* http://en.opensuse.org/Category:SDB:SaX2
a dead link as 6. match
*http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:SaX2_Bugs
a dead link as 7. match
* http://en.opensuse.org/Patterns/Definition_Language/X11
a dead link as 8. match

C)
On 30/07/10 12:08, Juergen Weigert wrote:
> higher quality

I do not think that articles/pages
in the namespaces "Main" and "Portal"
should / are able to / do necessary
be of higher quality.

In my opinion they should just be more appropriate for a 'normal
user'/'consumer' of the openSUSE project (including the openSUSE
distribution)
so:
- be an entrance to the wiki
- be more basic than special
- include definitions/explaination that may not interest/annoy a programmer
- include links more special topics (in the other namespaces and in
other sub-projects of the openSUSE project)

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